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Hi Joe, Pleasure to meet you! Im sorry I just retyped that artical. I am not the writer, sorry if that was missunderstood. I couldnt scan it at work cause our scanner didnt pick it up well enough to copy to ms:word. That artical was in our local paper on January 9th. Now as far as Jeff's medications are concerned here is a list.

Meperidine *80mg every 3 hours*
Promethazine *16mg every 4-6 hours*
Flumazenil *3mg every day*
Diphtheria Toxoid *.5cc a day*
Nipride *Only if bloodpressure is high*
Bupivacaine *cleaning of the wounds*
Naloxone *1mg a day as needed*
Silvadene *Cream for cleaning*

there are several antibiotics (they are taking to long to type out)

He has phisical therapy 2 times a week at home right now, starting in 2 weeks it will be 3 times a week at the hospital. He currently has a home nurse that comes by 2 times a week to dress his wounds and take vitals. During the nurses visit he is givin several IV injected antibiotics or pain medication if needed.

He aslo has some morphine patches incase of severe pain, but Jeff refuses to use them because of addiction purposes.

Love,

Sarah

Hi jeff..

Sorry to hear whats happened to you:(

Im glad your on the road to recovery and resting your bones:)

I must be honest and say when i hear stories like this,its the one time i am glad to live in the u.k as we rarely have shootings over here.

Anyway...im looking forward to hearing that you are back on your feet and back at work.

take care..

jay:thumbsup:

Gee, somehow I missed this when it was first posted. Jeff I am glad you are alive and mending, I am sorry for the pain you have endured and will endure to get well. Though I am not from TX I want to thank you for serving your community in this dangerous occupation, if it wasn't for the sacrifice that policemen, firefighters etc did for us, it would be a much more dangerous world to live in.

Sarah, my heart and thoughts are with you also. As a wife I can only imagine the concern you feel for your husband. It must take a mighty strong woman to be a policeman's wife, not just anyone can do it, I admire you. I am glad your husband is alive and on his way to healing. God bless you both.

How long has he been taking the Meperidine/Demerol? Any opioid derivative is potentially addictive but in case of sever pain sometimes there isn't much choice. I just hope he's not getting some of the least desirable side-effects of these drugs. The Naloxone can reverse 'some'side-effect of meperidine (apnea) but can exacerbate others. Anyway I hope Jeff isn't reading this one. Probably not good for him to worry about side-effects. Other than pain, any side-effects that are really bothering him? Flumazenil and Naloxone can be used to combat cns toxicity of meperidine.
Promethazine is commonly used with mperidine for sedative effect. Meperidine is a synthetic opioid, morphine, the natural extract, is ten times as powerful. And I noticed that meperidine may cause constipation and decreased peristalsis/bowel movements so keep the natural fruit and vegetable juices coming...also feed food that passes more 'slowly', after food that passes quick.

Originally posted by SoonerJeff
Hi Joe, Pleasure to meet you! Im sorry I just retyped that artical. I am not the writer, sorry if that was missunderstood. I couldnt scan it at work cause our scanner didnt pick it up well enough to copy to ms:word. That artical was in our local paper on January 9th. Now as far as Jeff's medications are concerned here is a list.

Meperidine *80mg every 3 hours*
Promethazine *16mg every 4-6 hours*
Flumazenil *3mg every day*
Diphtheria Toxoid *.5cc a day*
Nipride *Only if bloodpressure is high*
Bupivacaine *cleaning of the wounds*
Naloxone *1mg a day as needed*
Silvadene *Cream for cleaning*

there are several antibiotics (they are taking to long to type out)

He has phisical therapy 2 times a week at home right now, starting in 2 weeks it will be 3 times a week at the hospital. He currently has a home nurse that comes by 2 times a week to dress his wounds and take vitals. During the nurses visit he is givin several IV injected antibiotics or pain medication if needed.

He aslo has some morphine patches incase of severe pain, but Jeff refuses to use them because of addiction purposes.

Love,

Sarah

Wow Joe, your a doctor aswell? you just told me more about his medication then the hospital did. His current problems are sever nausa, he is constantly throwing up and getting dizzy, as far as the demerol goes its been about 2 weeks now, we had a talk last night about him not using it cause he doesnt want the addiction, but he is afraid he wont be able to handle the pain. As of right now he has a cathiter in him so he is ok there, as far as the constipation goes, he has that problem where he cant go for 3 days or so then he can. The nurse was gonna see what she could find out. Do you have any suggestions? I would love to have them. Anything to help him as much as possible.

Love,

Sarah

Hi Sarah,
No, not a doctor but I've had my own health problems over the years. I do have a background in biology (molecular and biochemistry). Anyway, I'm with Jeff so-to-speak but for different reasons not the addiction risk. With these kind of drugs you shouldn't stop cold, usually better to gradually decrease dose. You may want to talk with your doctor and let him know he wants to try and reduce his dose of mperidine and stop taking it to see if he can cope with the pain without it. If so the doctor may say to go off the Flumazenil and Naloxone. (These are expelled faster by the body though, so should probably be continued a tad after meperidine is stopped perhaps, doctor should have more details on that.) Meperidine is metabolized to normeperidine which can be dangerous for patients with low renal(kidney) function. (Well a bad liver is not good either.) With low renal function the accumulation of normeperidine, a neurotoxin, can lead to seizures. (In last post I mentioned the other meds were to suppress some of these toxic effects to the cns.) Two weeks is quite a bit of time to be on it, if there's no hepatic or renal problems might be ok but looking at symptoms of sever nausea and dizziness personally I'd prefer a little pain over that. (I admit depends what kind of pain, sharp/dull, all-over body, some are more tolerable than others.) I can't give medical advice but I would talk with the doctor about the meperidine. How is the meperidine being administered currently?(orally, injection?)
(Some would say meperidine is worse than morphine side-effects risk-wise.) Oh, yea, didn't think I should both mention it but just in case, alcohol is a big no-no of course with meperidine and others like it. Just think though, in the old days, they just let the soldiers drink to deal with the pain.(provides some pain relief and acts as sedative as well...)

Hi friends,

I am here on a not so good note right now, Jeff was taken to the hospital monday morning around 3am because of a mild heart attack as the doctor put it. We are not yet sure what caused it, but he seems to be getting a little better today. He asked me to tell everyone thanks for the prayers and such. They are running countless amounts of tests on him right now and have him placed back in the hospital. They have currently taken him off most of his medication due to not knowing the cause of this heart attack. so he is in a bit of pain, so he cant get on here himself. The doctors are saying he might have nemonia or the onset of. I will let you know how that turns out.

Love,

Sarah

Very sorry to hear that but we hope and pray he will recover quickly even from this supposed heart attack(doctors weren't 'sure' it was a heart attack?). If you have time maybe you could document Jeff's symptoms before the supposed heart attack?(any signs of hypoxia etc? tremors, seizure-like etc..) I'm glad they took him off the meds for now and hope that helps his body clean up. You should not feel bad making the doctor explain himself to you in his choice of drugs etc.... As with many other drugs, an overdose of meperidine can lead to a heart attack. (An 'overdose' can occur over time if the responsible compound is not properly excreted and builds up in the body...)
(My opinion, and again I'm not a doctor etc etc..., is that Morphine is better, you don't have to worry about normeperidine buildup as with meperidine. It would be interesting to note what the doctor would tell you as to why he chose meperidine, less 'supposed' respiratory depression, etc..?) Also, even though meperidine may be up to 50% weaker as an analgesic when taken in pillform as opposed to intravenously, the negative effects of normeperidine buildup may not be reduced. Hope he's doing better tonight. God bless,
Joe

I am very sorry to hear that. Hopefully its just a hick up on Jeffs road to recovery. We are all thinking of him, here. I know it must be very hard for you, but thank you for keeping us updated here too. I am very sure you need almost as much suport as Jeff.

Jim

Hey everyone,

Jeff just got home from the hospital. He had a mild heart attack and for several days he had sezuers. He has nemonia right now but is on differnt medications. He is on a morphine patch at the moment and blood-pressure medicine. What I understand is that the heart attack was due to extrememly high bloodpressure. Neither one of us even realized it. I hate the doctors he has, they never explain what it is thats wrong, and when they do I dont understand. Every doctor says something differnt. His wounds have healed for the most part, still scabbed over but healing nicely. Jeff wants to talk to you all so bad, he hates not getting on here, he is really missing it. I will try and get him on here within a few days, till then I will let him know you all are thinking about him.

Love,

Sarah

Originally posted by SoonerJeff
Hey everyone,

Jeff just got home from the hospital. He had a mild heart attack and for several days he had sezuers. He has nemonia right now but is on differnt medications. He is on a morphine patch at the moment and blood-pressure medicine. What I understand is that the heart attack was due to extrememly high bloodpressure. Neither one of us even realized it. I hate the doctors he has, they never explain what it is thats wrong, and when they do I dont understand. Every doctor says something differnt. His wounds have healed for the most part, still scabbed over but healing nicely. Jeff wants to talk to you all so bad, he hates not getting on here, he is really missing it. I will try and get him on here within a few days, till then I will let him know you all are thinking about him.

Love,

Sarah

Hi Sarah, all of us here at the forum and everyone here at my hometown church are praying for Jeff and you, we are so proud and yet broken hearted at the same time. I look at my local police officers with so much more respect and compassion these days.

In this news forum, my last post in regards Jeff was called "Thank You SoonerJeff", it was to thank him for posting in different forums that give us worldwide advertising. When I enter this forum and see the title to that thread a couple of lines below, I think how ironic and how much we need to thank him for completely different purposes --

Get well SoonerJeff! Stay strong Sarah! --Mark:cool:

They should not have had him on meperidine for so long. (Definitely explains the seizures...) I think it's good they finally took him off it. Glad to hear he's better and at home now.

Originally posted by SoonerJeff
Hey everyone,

Jeff just got home from the hospital. He had a mild heart attack and for several days he had sezuers. He has nemonia right now but is on differnt medications. He is on a morphine patch at the moment and blood-pressure medicine. What I understand is that the heart attack was due to extrememly high bloodpressure. Neither one of us even realized it. I hate the doctors he has, they never explain what it is thats wrong, and when they do I dont understand. Every doctor says something differnt. His wounds have healed for the most part, still scabbed over but healing nicely. Jeff wants to talk to you all so bad, he hates not getting on here, he is really missing it. I will try and get him on here within a few days, till then I will let him know you all are thinking about him.

Love,

Sarah

Joe, Mark, Jim and everyone else,

I need to say thank you, I know you all have given me your prayers and blessings. One day I hope to be able to pay back some of this. Today is the first day I have been able to really sit up and type. I am quite emotional at this point, this morning I was woke up buy 6 of my fellow officers, they came into my home and setup 2 new 55 gallon aquariums and brought me many new fish. 4 Jack Dempsy's, 2 Albino Tiger Oscars, 1 55 gallon is a community tank with over 40 differnt fish I couldnt even start to name. They also have 2 40 gallon tanks for when my oscars and jacks get of size to be moved. This of course made me cry, to top this all off they have hired a local aquarium cleaning crew to come to my house for the next 6 months on a regular basis to clean the tanks. Sarah was even surprised they did this, apparently she didnt even know about it. I honestly cant put into words my feelings tward what all of you have said, done and talked my wife through. I can only imagine that one day I can do something in return. If at any time there is something I can do for any of you please just ask.

Mark,

I noticed the sticky message thing, altho it isnt allot I took it to heart in more then one way. That simple small thing added a smile to my face. It is much appreciated buddy, I had actually forgot about you posting that message thanking me for posting. I soon hope to be back posting and helping where ever I can.

Joe,

Thank you for all your words, my wife has been talking about you nonstop and would love to thank you in person one of these days, I would aswell. Maybe one day we can go have a beer without your help, she might not of been able to handle everything at once. Its hard for me to put things in words at this moment so dont think your gonna get off this easy, just wait till im better.

Jim,

I dont quite know to much about you, cept for your fish experiences. You have posted several times in my thread and its appreciated greatly. Just the thought of you guys thinking of me makes my smile and go on, as corny as that sounds its true. I hope to get to know ya better bro. Thanks for everything. One of us will always keep our friends updated, of course that is what you all are to my wife and I. If not an added edition to our family.

Diane,

I am not surprised you passed over this thread, I never actually meant it to go on like this. Most people dont keep up with the news because well as far as I know its rarely used for anything real serious. I had no idea where to put this post so I just chose there. Sarah thanks you greatly for the prayers, as do I. We do not live in TX either, We live in oklahoma. We were on the news in Texas aswell as surrounding states due to sharing of station time.

Jay,

Last but surely not least, your use of smiley's render me speechless, makes me laugh not sure why. Appreciate the hyper blessings buddy. I wish I was in the UK now, might be a good place for my next vacation you think?



Final Thoughts - Jerry Springer

How are all of your pets? Been so busy posting about me, I need to hear how their doing. Mine are all great, we now have rex and albert moved into my bedroom in a 55g instead of the 110 so he can be closer to me since they were my first fish-pets. I enjoy watching them play around with eachother, new undergravel filter system got installed allong with a kick *** bubble bar for looks, rex loves the bubbles he thinks their playtoys, just one question though, should I remove the carbon on the undergravel filter I heard that it could actually turn your tank into poison lol. Let me know. I now have way to many tanks to keep up with when Im better, 6 in total now. I started out with 1 lol what a mess. I miss being on here guy, never knew such a small thing could mean so much to a person, it really does.

On another note, I have been asked by Sarah to retire from the force. I have to take this into thought because of what happend. I have talked it over with a couple of friends and they dont think any less of me if I wanted to. I dont want to be gone from this earth at any time, let alone because of a job. I love what I do though so I have some serious thinking to do. I would love your input on this, it really does matter to me what you all would think, please be honest if you think im a wuss for wanting to leave tell me I wont think any less of ya

God bless you all, and your families, churches and friends.

We concider you all family, your welcome into our home anytime

Sincerely,

Jeff

P.S. If I left anyone out im sorry, I will try to better next time Hope your not to upset.

Jeff
Glad your back home, and online again. My wife and I just finished reading your post. Were hoping that trip to the hospital, was the last one. Time for you to stay home and enjoy the fish. Awe full nice of your friends to set you up like that.
I don't envy your next decision. Since I myself have never had to be in the situation you are in, the only advice I could offer is to do what is best for you and Sarah.
It takes a very special person, to put their life on the line, in order to protect the rights of others. IMO anyone who would call you a wuss for retiring, obviously has never been in your situation.
If it was myself, I suspect I would not be able to return. I would be afraid, that if I was put in a similar situation, I would not react properly to that situation. I might react and endanger the lives of my fellow officers, or use unnecessary force, possibly deadly force, on a suspect, when the situation might not warrant such action.
Just my thoughts on it.

Jim

Hi guys,

Its me Sarah, just wanted to say hi to everyone. I have the first picture to show you of one of the tanks that was just finished about an hour ago. Jeff let me name the oscar so I chose 'Fuzzy' Jeff agree'd apon the name and is hoping to name all the new fish after members of this board. If any of you go by nicknames please let Jeff or myself know. Here is the picture!

Love you guys,

Sarah