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Postby ILLYOUNG on Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:46 pm

my tiger oscars (2) have white spots on them. They were in 20 gal tank then moved to 55gal tank then back to the 20 gal, thats when the spots started. so wed i put them back into the 55gal. the white spots are all over from around the mouth to on the back fin. in the 55gal with the O's are 5 small guppies.  since in the 55 gal the O's have been excited and normal what do i do about them spots???
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Re: white spots

Postby stavros693000 on Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:13 pm

ILLYOUNG wrote:my tiger oscars (2) have white spots on them. They were in 20 gal tank then moved to 55gal tank then back to the 20 gal, thats when the spots started. so wed i put them back into the 55gal. the white spots are all over from around the mouth to on the back fin. in the 55gal with the O's are 5 small guppies.  since in the 55 gal the O's have been excited and normal what do i do about them spots???
its called white spot disease,my oscars had the same thing. Its a parasite that lives in your gravel and unless you take prompt action a fatality is enevitable...............just go to your local aquarium and get some white spot three day medication,it is not expensive,it is like a blue dye,your whole tank will turn blue. but after a couple of days the spots will start to disapear,just follow the directions on the bottle and DONT over medicate...hope this helps tmbsup
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Re: white spots

Postby amy5335 on Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:20 pm

White spot disease? Never heard of it. It's probably Ich, fish get it from stress and such. Just get an ich curing medicine.
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Re: white spots

Postby Mark Stone on Sun Feb 18, 2007 12:02 pm

"White Spot Disease" is a common name for Ich. Both Amy and Illyoung are correct, to treat the aquarium with an Ich med. They are commonly available at any pet shop. Only thing is that it's going to take 5 days (at least) and not 3 for the medication to take effect because of the nature of the parasite. We have extensive discussion in regards this disease in both our FAQ section and in archived discussions. --Mark
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Re: white spots

Postby ILLYOUNG on Sun Feb 18, 2007 12:35 pm

thanks for the advice. i went and purchased Nox-Ich and was told to also purchase Furan-2 the water is blue now. The furan capsules is like dust when i put it in the water it just sets on the top should i stir it in or let it be ???
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Re: white spots

Postby Mark Stone on Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:35 am

thanks for the advice. i went and purchased Nox-Ich and was told to also purchase Furan-2 the water is blue now. The furan capsules is like dust when i put it in the water it just sets on the top should i stir it in or let it be
Don't know -- I've never heard of Furan-2! The Ich medicine you got will work well, but you need to follow the instructions exactly. The parasite that is Ich can only be treated during a small portion of it's life cycle, and if you discontinue treatment too early or fail to follow directions it won't work. Good luck! --Mark
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Re: white spots

Postby ILLYOUNG on Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:24 am

the bottle says to continue for three days, then repeat if necessary. After two days the spots now look like cotton. Is this illness like chicken pocks will they never get it again? or will they ? I have seen some pics where the Oscar looks as if they've had hith will my fish always have white on them or will it go away completely
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Re: white spots

Postby DanRad on Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:07 am

Furan 2 is broad-spectrum antibiotic with some other stuff thrown in.  Not really what you need for ich, and -- like other similar drugs -- is very likely to kill the "good" bacteria in you bio-filters.  Mark's suggestion of Nox-Ich was much better.  There's another product called Quick-Cure that's chemically similar if you can't find the Nox-Ich.  They both use Malachite Green and formalin.

The cottony patches are a secondary infection.  The Furan should actually help that.  Be sure and follow the instructions on the med container relating to water changes!  Another, simpler cure is to raise the tank temp to just over 80 degrees, and use salt -- see the Progressive Salt Treatment in the Disease and Treatment FAQ's.  Here is link:

http://oscarsfishtank.com/discuss/index ... ic=22464.0
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Re: white spots

Postby ILLYOUNG on Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:42 pm

so with a 55 gal tank, thats 55 teaspoons of salt, thats a lot of salt,no? b/c the salt doesnt evaporate it just sits right. And im suspossed to use it with every partial water change?
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Re: white spots

Postby DanRad on Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:29 pm

That's correct.  Build it up slowly, as per the instructions.  Probably a good idea to dissolve it in water before adding.  If you're changing water once per week, start immediately after your water change.  Treatment should be complete, or nearly so, by the next.
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Re: white spots

Postby Barb Okla on Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:19 pm

O man,, DONT" USE THAT MUCH SALT!! THAT SHOULD NOT BE DONE IN A TANK!!  This wil not KILL the Ick.. it is surposed to make them fall off, AS YOU ARE MEDICATING THIS TANK  ALREADY, you could really stress them out with that much salt!! PLEASE DO NOT USE ANY SALT AS YOU ARE MEDICATING THEM NOW!!  ICH can not be treated while they are ON THE FISH!! The salt makes them fall off then you have  to do a water change, and then medicate the tank.. That is WAY to much salt!! To dose a fish like that, you need to do so in a bucket and only for a short period of time..
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Re: white spots

Postby DanRad on Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:27 pm

That's correct!  Should have made that clear.  Don't use multiple treatment types at once.  Combinations are dangerous.
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Re: white spots

Postby ILLYOUNG on Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:48 pm

yesterday was the fourth day and i was told to do water change at least 50%, which i did. One of my O's look fine he has no more dots. The other looks a lot better the dots or spots have gotten clearer but i can still see the some still on fins. Should i move her back into the 20 gal tank and treat her again by herself??? I didnt put any salt in the tank the last couple days until i changed the water yesterday. i added as much as the box said for 55 gallon tank for partial water change. 
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Re: white spots

Postby Barb Okla on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:25 pm

All meds for ICH are different.. FOLLOW the directions on the meds you have to treat the ICH.. With the furan 2, I would not have added that in until the ich meds worked.. To many meds at once will kill your fish from stress.. ON the salt, that should be 1 tablespoon per 10 gal of water.. NOW if you have the jungle/other one, it does say, 1teaspoon per gal.. they can do this as the grains are smaller.. SO you treat the main tank ONCE for a 55 gal.. ON water changes, YOU only add in salt for the amount of water you are REPLACING.. NOT the whole 55 gal AGAIN.. understand??
IF you take out say 15gal of water, then you add in salt for ONLY the 15 gal you replace back IN....
That is still a lot of salt. I do the half dose  but that is the Doc's carton salt.. YOU can half that amount if you feel it is to much.. That would be 1 teasp per 2 gal.. Best to dissolve the salt in tank water, before you add it into the tank.. 
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Re: white spots

Postby ILLYOUNG on Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:02 pm

should i put her in the other tank to isolate her and the ich  medicine??? It does say if treatment doesnt work all the way skip a day then repeat. The first day i used both the non ich and the furan 2 but only used one package of the furan 2. i also felt it was a bit much so i just used the non ich liquid. It seemed to work fine i just think one O had it worse. thanks for the info about the salt. i did have 6 guppies in there now there is only 3.
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