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peaceful convicts?

Postby dethmunkee on Tue Mar 27, 2001 10:13 pm

hey

i was wondering why my cons in a 10 gal are so peaceful. i have 3 feeder guppies in there, and i was expecting them to get their anger taken out on. it seems like the cons are afraid of them because when i put food in there, the guppies get all of it and the cons just sit back. should i get rid of the guppies? my cons are really grey and the stripes are almost invisible. the temp is like 80-82 degrees, ph 7.o.
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Postby Adam on Wed Mar 28, 2001 1:47 am

you might try lowering the temp to like 75-78 that might be a little warm for them. Are they eating at all, or just very little?
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Postby dethmunkee on Wed Mar 28, 2001 2:27 am

hey,

i cant lower the temp bacuse i think my heaters broken. i want it to stay at like 78, but it would go till 81!! about the food thing, i feed them brine shrimp the day they got in the tank and they swam by it. today, i but pellets in the tank and they would only eat what was in front of them. the feeder guppies were eating everythin.
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Postby TigerO'sRule on Wed Mar 28, 2001 8:16 am

how many cons. are in there? really a 10 gal is too small. Convicts are very aggesive and need a bigger tank to allow them to establish a territoy.

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Postby dethmunkee on Thu Mar 29, 2001 9:07 pm

hey,

2 cons. i'll b shure to get a bigger tank, but as for now, they are almost shy! they dont even bother to case the 2 feeder guppies in the tank
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Postby TigerO'sRule on Thu Mar 29, 2001 11:40 pm

dethmunkee,
That was kinda my point they may be shy b/c they dont have an established territory. Although if they are small 1-2 in territory isn't a big deal to them but as they start getting around 3 in they will be more agressive and will want to establish thier own territory I would reccomend at least a 20 gal.

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Postby boneytoung on Fri Mar 30, 2001 1:56 pm

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first of all the temp is ok.second a ten gallon is just fine,heres how to help you along first see if there is any orange on the belly of eather of them if so you have a female.if both do you have a small prob/if they dont you still have the same prob.
next/ kill the pellets convicts will eat them but it will put a high content of amon in your tank.if you realy want them to get active,plane and simple an earth worm.if they dont atleast try for the worm THERE SICK.
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Postby TigerO'sRule on Fri Mar 30, 2001 6:57 pm

I'm sorry but I'm gonna have to disagree. A ten gallon tank is NOT big enough for two convicts once they reach their full size. They are really agressive fish and can't be kept in a 10 gal tank! I thought I was bein pretty nice sayin 20 gal people on other boards say 2 cons. would need a 30 gal. But there is no good way to keep 2 convicts in a 10 gal tank. I've heard stories about how agressive convicts can be. I've heard of people who had a convict KILL a full grown oscar. They are not a very peaceful fish and a fish that agressive should NOT be kept w/ another fish of any sort in a ten gal. tank!

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Postby boneytoung on Fri Mar 30, 2001 8:45 pm

yes eventualy they will need larger space but you can keep a pair 2"-6" in a ten gal for about 3years as long as there a pair and as long as they breed,now as i indicated befor they must be 2-6" but after that the limited space will affect them physicly.i dont want to sound yes i know it all the fact is know one dose.but ive kept cons in ten gals just to get them to breed to feed my other cichs also ive been a trop fish hob,since i was 5 i have owned more pink cons and wild cons than i can count.buy the way im 29 now and have never lived without atleast three to for tanks full of osteos and cichs and charanoid IN MY LIFE.
when it comes down to it check the stomache for orange on atleast one and you know you have a pair if you dont it dosent matter what size the tank is there will be war.
and please let me state that i dont agree leaving ANY cich in a ten

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Postby Hoocheypucker on Sat Mar 31, 2001 1:37 am

Boneytoung is correct. Convicts will mate in a goldfish bowl. They will thrive in a ten gallon tank extremely well for a few years, depending on their size when you bought them. By the time they out grow a ten gallon tank, you will have become proficient enough to know that they need more room. In fact, they might do better in a ten gallon than a larger tank, for its size is easier to maintain; therefore you will find yourself given more readily to its upkeep. Too many fish fever enthusiasts oversize the tank and are lulled into a false sense of security. Furthermore, those ten gallon setups come in mighty handy in an emergency...isolation of sick tankizens, or those occasions when a member of an aquarium needs to be separated for any one of several reason.



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Postby Hoocheypucker on Sat Mar 31, 2001 1:48 am

Boneytoung is correct on another point. The orange spot is a dead giveaway that a Convict is a member of the fairer se, wild or pink, mated or not, assuming that you are certain that these are convicts.



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Postby Hoocheypucker on Sat Mar 31, 2001 2:00 am

Originally posted by Hoocheypucker:
Boneytoung is correct on another point. The orange spot is a dead giveaway that a Convict is a member of the fairer sex, wild or pink, mated or not, assuming that you are certain that these are convicts. Additionally, Convicts of two inches can be very aggressive, and quite capable of holding their own. But, do they have an area to call home? Do they have a choice of places to select from as far as signing the deed on their own piece of property. If there is not a suitable and defendable site for them - then they feel vulnerable.





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Postby Hoocheypucker on Sat Mar 31, 2001 2:19 am

One last thing. Pellets? Is that shrimp pellets? If I put that in my tank, and one of my cichlids grabs it before he/she knows what it is doing, it will spit it out as if it were castor oil sewage. The feeders, on the other hand, love the shrimp pellets.

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Postby TigerO'sRule on Sat Mar 31, 2001 3:14 am

Yes I agree on the pink spot thing, but I will not agree w/ the ten gal being big enough for two 5 in agressive cichlids. Unless as you brought up they are a pair and even then I'd remove the male from the tank b/c the female will fight for her babies and ten gallons doesn't give the male much room to run. I have three cons in a 30 gal tank and they are about 2 in a pice and two get really beat up while one just beats up on them and thats in a 30. so rather you agree or not it's up to you but this is a place for opinions and I've exressed mine.

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Postby boneytoung on Sat Mar 31, 2001 10:00 am

tiger is not incorect a bigger tank is viable so im not knocking you tig,im just stateing that a PAIR will mate in the tent.tig is also correct about removing the male not only will the female attac the male after the clutch hatches but if thretend she will also resort to eating her own fry.then again so will he
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