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Is pot smoking an appropriate subject to talk about on here? If it is not then just erase this post. But anyway I have come up with a plan to completely override the country with so many pot plants that they would have to legalize it. With winter quickly approaching here in the U.S. now is the perfect time to start this plan. Step 1: Everyone who smokes pot should begin saving all of the seeds that they can find.(just think of how many seeds that will be when spring arrives!) Step 2: Keep saving them seeds . Step 3: When spring arrives just spread the seeds out every where there is dirt. That is all. The Results: If all works out then thousands of plants will soon begin to grow all over the place. Here are a few pointers that may help. 1.Don't plant seeds all in one spot. Birds will eat them all up if they are in one spot and also when they grow they will be easier to cut down if they are all in one spot. 2.Don't just plant them in the woods. Plant them in gardens, flower pots,tree wells, or where ever you find dirt. With the amount of plants that will need to be destroyed in the cities it will be very difficult to put alot of effort into destroying the ones in the woods. 3. Don't really expect to harvest anything.
The real purpose of doing this isn't the harvest but just to get the plants growing all over the place. And finally TELL ALL OF YOUR POT SMOKING FRIENDS TO DO THE SAME. If we can get this to catch on and everyone does it year after year there will be no way to controll the growth of marijuana. It will be plentifull and free for all! This is not some crazy idea that won't work. It will work with just a small amount of effort from all of the Ganja Loving Citizens of America. Please pass this on to anyone you know that smokes. Emailing and word of mouth is the best way to get this to work. Oh yeah one last bit of advise DON'T GET CAUGHT!

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Dope can get you through times of no money better than money can get you through times of no dope.-The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers

it is probally inappropriet for the same reason I gave under "screen names". I only support the use of marajuana for medicinal purposes only (ex: combating the side effects of certain chemotheraputic agents)

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Candice

Well the sign does say anything so... I do have to add that I think legalizing marajuana would be a major mistake and set back to the american society at large. I think it is a highly distructive gate-way drug and has no place (medical or recreational) in this society... I feel the same way about cigarettes, and alcohol is not much better. I do understand that for human nature to truely be satisfied a large portion of the population needs to envolve it's self in some self-distructive habit, so in this case I think cigarettes and alcohol do very well and are the best of all the evil available to us. However I have rarely met anyone who regularly smokes pot and can carry a single thougnt for more then 20 mins and usually less. There are some people that are very smart and quick who smoke it and I have known some but after several years of smoking they are just smart... not very quick anymore. I worked at a place were 80% of the guys smoked pot everyday, or at least every week, and I can tell you that it was the worst work experience I have ever had... I have never met a bunch of guys who were lazier or more unmotivated, and it made my job that much harder because I had to pick up the slack for 4 other guys... So no I think legalization is a very very bad idea indeed.

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Adam

I would think we're ok with discussions about drugs, long as it doesn't go 'overboard'. Personally, I can't even stand being around people who smoke.(makes me dizzy, can't stand the lack of fresh air) I guess it wouldn't bother me much if pot were legal but I would be worried that it may lead to more use of other illegal and more "dangerous" and addictive drugs. I have never smoked a joint or done any drugs but I have close friends who have. He/She started with smoking regular cigarettes, then pot, etc.....like Adam said, too much pot and the US will look just like Tijuana...
Anyway, for your own protection, please don't "blatantly" admit to taking/producing illegal drugs on here. At least protect yourself with bs like "if I were to", "hypothetically" etc..

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Joe
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I just gave up normal cigirettes for my wifes sake as she has damaged lungs from smoking and shes only 32.

Im dead set against legalizing dope.
I smoked it in my teens and enjoyed it for a little while but it started giving me panic attacks which is fortunate as it put me off it.
Freinds of mine however were not as lucky they started out on dope like me at the same time(late 70s) Some could control the addiction others couldnt go a day without the shit.
They ended up real dope heads and wound up into all sorts of other shit like cocaine,speed,trips,herion.
They used to blow all their money on the shit.
Andrew:- His mother wondered why she hadnt seen him for a week so she went to his flat and found him dead on his bed from an OD. He was already in a delicate condition from having hepetitis and aids.

Shane and Marie:- Had kids and were both drug addicts. They wound up that desperate that they both commited suicide on methadene (the shit they give you to help get off drugs)

My other freinds from that era are either walking zombies with no life ,some in mental hospitals or spending time in jail for drug related crimes which is frowned on very much so here.

As someone said to me a while ago(I think it was Adam actually) If you legalise one form of illegal drug then that just opens the door for more.
Where would we be then? Just a bunch of ****ing stupid ****headed morons watching society fall around us.

KIDS SAY NO TO DRUGS THEY AINT WORTH IT


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[This message has been edited by oscar2001 (edited 10-27-2001).]

Working in a mental instituition Ther are alot of people whos problems started due to drugs. Alot of interesting, sad stories, let me tell you.


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Candice

I appreciate your viewpoints on the subject but definately have to disagree on the part of medical marijuana. I can understand why people wouldn't want it legalized for recreational purposes but if someone is very sick, such as going through chemotherapy then I believe they should have whatever makes them feel good. Something like marijuana has to be better for them then something like oxycontin. Them pills kill people everyday. Marijuana has never killed anyone. :You should really reconsider your view on medical marijuana. P.S. No one gave me their opinion on whether or not the plan seems like it could work.

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I really would have to be skeptical.. there are enough people out there who know a pot plant, and dont approve of them that I dont think it would have to come to authorities pulling them up I think the vast majority sowed in city limits would be trampled/pulled/or under nurished and never get to adult plants. Those sowed in rural type areas, might grow to adult plants but I think you would never get large amounts of plants to grow unless you grew them in an open field or clearing... in which case they have planes and helicopters that look for those... you could probably grow a dozen or so plants in secret but never enough to feed the high school, and stoner population at larger, sorry I just dont think it would work. Also if it did the weed would probably be so pathetic you would get higher smoking grass clippings... I have seen evidence tapes of safisticated growing operations and there is no way mother nature could compair to them...

And I dont think medical marijuana is a good idea... under your rational we should legalize crack and herion for medical use... I mean as long as it makes them feel ok. Drugs are drugs and there is no reason to legalize any of them for any type of use. Legalization for any reason just leads to abuse of the system.... you cant tell me most of the posers who have "prescriptions" smoke all the pot they get... There are plenty of prescription pain killers etc. around we dont need pot to.

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Adam

did you know that the amount of morphine needed to control the pain of advanced cancer patients would acctually kill them (in equivalence to the releif from 1 marajuane smoke)?
Marajuane does more then offer pain relief also. It combats the nausea associatated with many chemotheraputic drugs.
When some ones immune system is compromised and they are also not able to eat this opens them up to become susceptable to many other secondary illnesses. (S.pneumonia, S.pyogenes, some Neisserias, ect)

Well... I am not sure I really want to get into what I really feel about all this. I believe I might end up with fewer friends at the end... lets just say I dont agree with the way terminally ill patients are treated whatsoever in our current age of modern medical magic...

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Adam

I got mixed feelings with the terminal cancer pateints.
My father died last year and it was actually the morphine that killed him in the last two weeks of his life. I know sure as shit that he would not have taken dope to releive his pain. Imo it was a good thing for the morphine to speed up his death as he was lingering and you could tell he wanted to end the way he was.

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Acctually whats really interesting is that Euthanasia/physician Assisted Suicides are Illeagal in all states except for I think 2. But what doctors will do is give extra morphine to help them along to a peacefull resting place. If you ask them if they have been involved in a "mercy killing" they say no. But when you ask if they have ever given someone extra morphine to permanatly relive them of pain they will say yes.

By the way Adam (Ichthiologist)
I love debating controversial topics from genetic engineering to legalizing marajuana. I understand Both sides of the topic (and depending on my day I can argue both sides) I respect everyones opinion. If someone believes that strongly about something I respect them more . . .even if it is the other side of the viewpoint. Dont worry about stating what you believe (or about loosing friends)

I completely agree with you. On most subjects i can see both sides of the story. Often I have something I would like to discuss with others but so I can get opposing view points. If I have anything else to chat about I'll put it on this board.

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Weed can get you through times of no money better than money can get you through times of no weed.

Well heres the thing... I think the indians and eskamo's had something with their dealings in the dying. They would leave them outside the igloo, or tent to die of exposure. Now I am not suggesting we through or elderly, or dying out into the streets to freeze or dehydrate, I think modern medicine has afforded us certain liberties in this area.

I think the main issue at hand is our obsession with eteral life, and perpetual existance. We eat healthy foods, drink special drinks, stay out of the sun... and why? so we can "live forever". I mean in ancient Rome it was actually an honor in certain circumstances to take your own life, and was encouraged to those who grew wary of life... I think we as a modern society becoming overly concerned with living(not to say it isnt nice). I think this rests heavily on our divergance from a theisticly driven world. Science and evolution have made us believe that we can adapt and live on beyond our natural life spans. Which is rediculous seeing as the oldest people in the world have never really lived past 120 years no matter what they do. The human body was not meant to exist for longer then that.

Anyway I got off on a bit of a tangent, but my main point is that I think people need to look at death as a natural part of life, and accept it as it comes, it makes it easier on themselves and on thier families. And if we can make that process shorter and less painful then I am all for it, instead of longer and more drawn out. My major grief with pot is that it is not used with terminal patients as often as it is used with "hippie" types, with chronic problems that have other treatment regamins that work equally well... they just like the fact that they get to get high in the process... I know this is a generalization and not true to all cases but it is true to the vast majority that I have been witness to....

Ok I am done and you all know how cruel and heartless I am


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Save the animals, eat a PETA member!

Adam