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It needs to be a case by case descision If someone wants to take their life who am I to say they cant? I do not live in their body from day to day suffering with whatever they have. I need to respect their autonomy. I do not believe it should be illegal to "die with dignity". (except at work where if someone threatens to kill themself the result is a physical takedown, and restraints)

On another point Yesterday a friend of mine from work passed away. He has been suffering with bone cancer for the past 4 months. While I will miss him, I am glad that he did not have one of the longer drawn out types of cancer.

How many medical marijuana cases have you witnessed to come upon this conclusion? That is probably true about alot of "hippie" types trying to take advantage of a situation for their own personal gain. There are also people taking advantage of other drugs, such as oxycontin,which treat cancer. But what about the real cases in which medical marijuana(mm) does help? There are other treatments but some of them are way too strong or too intense for some of the people. If you get a shot of morphine your going to be too stoned to even hold a conversation with somebody. That is called "DIEING with cancer". If you smoke a couple joints and it makes you feel better you can still function normally. That is called "LIVING with cancer". There is a big difference in the two.

Someone who is always doped up on morphine may lose the will to live. Someone who can still be a part of everyday life may hold on to the will to live.

Then there is another whole subject of other diseases that mm can help. The big one is AIDS. I won't go on anymore for now but just check this link if you have any doubts that mm doesn't help people. http://www.hightimes.com/Reference/Medical/maraids.html

Hmmm...I just joined this board,so-hi all! Interesting topic...In my opinion,making drugs legal would not make people use them any more than they do now. Think about it-when you "ban" something,it makes it all the more appealing. I'm not sure if this is true anymore,but I believe there is no drinking age in Europe-& I DO know that "pot" is legal in Amsterdam. Well they don't have problems like we do here. It depends on an individual. And I can speak as one who used to smoke LOTS of pot. I did many other drugs as well. I also smoked cigarettes. I do not (fortunately) have an addictive type personality. So I enjoyed them,but wouldn't touch the stuff anymore! Have no desire. But ya know what? Out of all the drugs I did alot,ALCOHOL is the one that repulses me now. So how many of you on here DRINK? Huh? Huh? Be honest now! Not to put anyone down,& I used to be quite a drinker myself! But alcohol & anyone even slightly intoxicated by the stuff is absolutely revolting! Caffeine also can make you rather hard to get along with,& I used to love the stuff as well. Not to ramble here,my point is that people are gonna do what they want in the end,& they should have the right to! It's time to take responsibility for your own actions!!! You don't want to do heroin-DON'T!!! And I'm no Democrat (not to offend anyone that might be) so I am not worried about "protecting" any "innocent" people from making mistakes. Protect yourself & those you care about. It's up to YOU! Besides,what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger! Take responsibility for yourself! Live & learn! Okay,okay...Nuff said...!

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The Northern Territory which is a state of Australia had a breif legal voluntary euthanasia thing happenning. But they bowed to pressure from the federal government and UN and did a backflip.

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Elfy, welcome aboard and thanks for posting your views, we certainly have had quite afew view points on the subject.

On the subject of Amsterdam... I think many people have a misconception of the place you cant just walk around plucking buds off plants that grow from streets laid from gold... it is a pretty scummy town from what I have heard from people that have gone there. In addition you can only smoke inside hash bars or your own home, and it is still illegal to smoke, or sell it in public there. Also their crime rate is not exactly low eiter... it is definately not Utopia like many seem to think.

Personally I think more drugs should be illegal, it's not so much a matter of wanting to protect people I think most people are not worth protecting (no one on this borad of course ). But more just because I dont want to have to deal with or work with people who are high... I have done it before and I hate it more then anything. Also pot impairs your reflexes so it is in my mind the same as driving drunk and should carry the same punishment.

Also Elfy not to pick but you have had quite a few bouts with addictive and semi-addictive substances... you dont have to be currently addicted to a substance to have an addictive personality.... I'll just leave it at that.

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Adam

Acctually I limit my alcahol intake to 2 drinks . . .per year. Both my parents and older brother are alcaholics, its a risk I don't want to take. Im kind of like a pile of dry wood, one little spark (one little binge) could be all thats needed to make it into a raging fire that consumes.

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Candice

Yeah I dont partake in the amber fluid much these days and when I do its usually in small amounts.
Unlike my younger days of killing off brain cells but thats another story

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TONY
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Hey Adam, did you check out the link that I posted earlier?

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Dope can get you through times of no money better than money can get you through times of no dope.-The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers

I gave up regular cigarettes 4 years ago and drink alcohol maybe once or twice a week, but never more than 2-3 beers and never the harder stuff (and never drive if drinking - I walk). I have never smoked pot or used any other illegal drugs, nor will I (even if I had cancer). It has been my experience working with, or associating with others who do smoke pot, that their life is not one I would trade for. They have no concept of committment, can't hold down a job for any length of time (if they don't get called for the random pee test), and can't think past the next break when they can have a smoke. Their life is theirs, I don't wish to tell them how to live it, it won't do you any good anyway, they don't listen. I simply do not want it legalized. It has no place in our society. It's bad enough to watch many people get killed by drunk drivers every year. Morphine is simply a pain killer, and having watched the benefits for my terminally ill mother, I would recommend its use for anyone in that situation. She was in tremendous pain, even the morphine could only lessen the pain, not take it away. But it had its use and I am grateful. It isn't intended for use of the general public, it is addictive and very difficult to break away from after prolonged use. That is why it is a controlled substance.

I can't rationalize the legalization of pot in the US. We already have way too many "minorities" and laws to protect them. I suppose pot smokers would need minority status too, because they would have a difficult time coping with life. There goes more of our tax dollars helping them with jobs, medical assistance, housing, etc. I think I have said enough to get my point across.